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Training & science

Some Work, All Play

Some Work, All Play is a running training and science podcast hosted by David Roche and Megan Roche. Co-host chat between two coaches working through several topics per episode, usually 80 to 100 minutes, released about weekly on Tuesdays.

Episodes
341
Since
2020
Last 6 months
27 episodes
Latest
Nov 10, 2026

What it is

Two running coaches go through recent exercise-science papers and big race results, then explain what they think it means for everyday training. Typical subjects are fueling and carb intake, fatigue resistance, heat training, bicarb and shoe technology, mixed with plenty of joking around. It is aimed at runners of any level who like to understand the reasoning behind a training plan.

Why listen

  • Most episodes take one new study, such as work on carb intake or the dose of hard training, and explain how it could change a training week.
  • The hosts coach pro road and trail athletes, so race breakdowns from Boston, NYC, Western States and UTMB come with coaching detail.
  • Mailbag episodes answer listener questions on topics like heat training, supplements and shoes.

Start here

  1. 243. “No Secrets” Q+A on VO2 Max, Very Hard Workouts, Fueling Easy Days, Iron Levels, Confidence, Genetics, and More! Jan 28, 2025 Spotify · Apple
    A listener Q&A in the show's 'No Secrets' format, covering VO2 max workouts, very hard sessions, fuelling easy days, iron levels, confidence and genetics.
  2. 292. The Countdown! Our 10 Most Important Training Studies of the Year Jan 6, 2026 Spotify · Apple
    The hosts count down the 10 endurance-performance and health studies of 2025 they consider most important, with practical takeaways on fuelling, training and shoes.
  3. 183. McDowell 50 Miler Lessons, Marathon Training Tips, New Shoe Previews and Pre-Race Meals! Dec 5, 2023 Spotify · Apple
    David Roche uses his McDowell Mountain 50 Miler to discuss pre-race meals, pacing, cramps, fuelling and what to do after a bad race.

Hosts

  • David Roche Running coach who runs the SWAP coaching group with Megan Roche.
  • Megan Roche Medical doctor (M.D.) and running coach who runs the SWAP coaching group with David Roche.

Good for

  • training theory
  • fueling and sports science
  • marathon and ultra race analysis

Listen

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Apple Podcasts Running chart, Nov 12, 2026: #2 US, #7 UK, #1 Canada, #3 Australia. All charts

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